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		<title>8.12 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JAYAN</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What for a Guru is needed? Is it reaching God or God- reallisation? Is that the highest? The AKtho Upanishad says: Unless somebody else point out to one, there is no other way of finding it. The realization of Self or God is so very subtle a matter that no amount of trouble in various [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><big>What for a Guru is needed? Is it reaching God or God- reallisation? Is that the highest? The AKtho Upanishad says: Unless somebody else point out to one, there is no other way of finding it. The realization of Self or God is so very subtle a matter that no amount of trouble in various directions such as study and running up to meet people will alone suffice. Study, Tirtha Yatra, Dana other Punya works, Ishta and Poorti, will not themselves show God, but will help one to a purer state of mind from which we can get the proper Guru and finally Realization of God. In the Puranas and Itihasas, we notice that a Guru is able to achieve not only the above but everything else. Baba’s marga is called the Guru Marga. In it, the Guru provides everything, including food, safety, and protection, to the sishya. That is the present counterpart of the ancient Guru sishsya system for every study. In ancient times, all knowledge was one. All training was one. Any knowledge was called Veda, including Mathematics, Astronomy, Prose and Grammar. Therefore for any and every learning, teaching was the regular course. Every boy must go to Gurukulam. There he was expected to live with his Guru for 12 years as a part of his household and rendered even menial services and was treated as a member of the family. He reaped a rich reward in having not only his food and clothing and shelter provided for him but also in the attention paid to every other item of his welfare. Consequently the Guru and his wife loved the pupil as their child and the pupil loved the Guru and revered his Guru’s wife as his mother. </big></p>
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		<title>8.11 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do we need a Guru? The object of seeking a Guru may be secular, temporal or spiritual. For secular matters, people take very great care to select appropriate Gurus to achieve the highest results. The issue is more often raised in spiritual matters. People are of the opinion that there is no clear reason [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><big>Why do we need a Guru? The object of seeking a Guru may be secular, temporal or spiritual. For secular matters, people take very great care to select appropriate Gurus to achieve the highest results. The issue is more often raised in spiritual matters. People are of the opinion that there is no clear reason to approach a religious Guru. The reason is especially one’s own pride and one’s disinclination to part with goods as dakshina to the Guru. Solution is easy or more easier when one clarifies the position in one’s own mind as to what a Guru is needed for what and what a Guru can do. Now the main question is whether spiritual Guru is needed. One might note what there is as authority and next as precedent, and then finally come to one’s own reasoning and try to decide the question. So far as the aim or object is concerned, aim with the highest spiritual benefit, i.e., to reach God or realizing God. But to decide what the goal is, a Guru’s help is very essential. Due to poorva karma, our nature and tendencies  are mostly concealed and not realized or controlled. They are so confused and find it difficult to decide what it is that they want and what is really good for them to aim at. In such cases, even to clarify the issue and to make a man clearly see what is best, a Guru’s aid is often useful and absolutely necessary.</big></p>
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		<title>8.10 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JAYAN</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[8.10 - Guru Worship
Namdev sat at a dinner along with his caste men who were all full of Achara. When the leaves had been spread and covered with dishes, a dog ran up to Namdev, grabbed a roti from his leaf and ran away. Every one cried out, “polluted, polluted.” Then, Namdev lifted up a [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-family: Courier New;"><big><big>Namdev sat at a dinner along with his caste men who were all full of Achara. When the leaves had been spread and covered with dishes, a dog ran up to Namdev, grabbed a roti from his leaf and ran away. Every one cried out, “polluted, polluted.” Then, Namdev lifted up a cup of ghee or butter from his leaf and ran after the dog saying “Vittal, Vittal, if you are taking only dried bread, it will choke your throat; take this ghee along with it.” People were laughing at the madness of Namdev who wanted to give extra feeding to a dog that polluted his plate and prevented him frm taking dinner. But the dog suddenly assumed the form of Vittal and told him, ‘Now that you have served under a <em>Guru</em>, you are able to realize Me in a dog and other forms’. This is an excellent way of full realization of God in all forms, which, according to the Gita, is the only knowledge of God. Only a Guru can teach this.</big></big></span><big><big></big></big></p>
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		<title>8.9 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[8.9 – Guru Worship
Story of Namdev
Namdev was an ardent worshipper of Vittal. He had frequent Sakshatkara of
Vittal and Vittal even spoke to him. So Namdev was under the impression
that
a) he had achieved complete God-realization and self–realization,
and
b)there was nothing to achieve further in the spiritual field.
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<p>Story of Namdev</p>
<p>Namdev was an ardent worshipper of Vittal. He had frequent Sakshatkara of<br />
Vittal and Vittal even spoke to him. So Namdev was under the impression</p>
<p>that</p>
<p>a) he had achieved complete God-realization and self–realization,</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>b)there was nothing to achieve further in the spiritual field.</p>
<p>When he had such wrong notions in his mind, he once visited an assembly of saints. There was Gora Kumbhar, another saint. He wanted to test which of the saints present were ripe or pucca and which were unripe or kaccha. The pucca pot is fully baked one. When struck with a mallet, it produces highly musical sound different from the thud. On the contrary, an unbaked or half-baked pot will crack.</p>
<p>Gora Kumbhar went round with his small mallet in hand and struck the head of one saint after another and said, pucca, pucca that is ‘ripe,ripe’. When he came near Namdev, Namdev got afraid and did not wish to face the mallet stroke. So he got up and went away. Then Gora Kumbhar said unripe,unripe’, and ‘kaccha,kaccha’. The whole assembly held Namdev to be an unripe one,because he had no Guru.</p>
<p>Then Namdev went up to Vittal and complained. Vital said that he was really unripe,kaccha. Namdev thought that Vittal’s sakshatkara to him was sufficient. But Vittal answered, ‘No’, and that he must go to a Guru to realize God in full. At the time he was only realizing God in Vittal and not in other forms. He was not able to see God in every form of life. Then God Vittal told him to go the Guru Visoba Kesar.</p>
<p>Namedev challenged Vittal to appear in any form and he would recognize him in any form. Vital then appeared first in the form of a Harijan who was baking buffalo, recently cut, in a pot. Next Vittal appeared as his own child.</p>
<p>Namdev not realizing Vittal in that Harijan form came to Vittal and said that he had not kept his promise of coming to test him. Vital said that he was the Harijan. Namdev was horrified and wanted another test. Next Namdev was told to sit under a tree near a well and go on with his worship, and then Vittal would appear. Namdev was waiting Vittal’s appearance. But he saw a Mohammadan riding on a horse breaking his images. On the second day, Namdev went to Vittal and complained that he had not come. Then Vittal said that the Mohhamadan who broke his images was Vittal. ‘Can you break images?’ was the wondering query of Namdev. Vittal answered ‘Yes”.</p>
<p>To realize God in all forms, he asked Namdev to go to Visoba Kesar. And when Namdev went there, he saw an old man, and that is Kesar. He was placing his feet with shoes over a stone lingam, which was worshipped by people. Namdev was aghast and told Kesar to place his foot elsewhere. When the old man requested Namdev himself to lift his<br />
emaciated legs and lift them up and leave them where there was no lingam. Namdev immediately lifted up the old man’s shod feet<br />
and placed them two or three feet off. On the place where Namdev placed the old man’s feet, a lingam shot up. Again when Namdev shifted those feet, to another place, there also a lingam<br />
shot up. Namdev was greatly surprised, and then Kesar told him,<br />
‘You think my shoe is unworthy and that the lingam alone is God. To get over this prejudice and wrong notion, you are sent here’. After serving this Vishoba Keasar for some time, Namdev went back, and then his pucca God-realization was proved by Vittal’s test.</span></p>
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		<title>Guru Worship &#8211; 8.8</title>
		<link>http://saibaba.siththan.com/archives/166</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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8.8 - Guru Worship
 
Need for a Guru &#8211; Sastraic authority:- “Acharya Devo Bhava” is mentioned in Taittiriya Upanishad. 
 
 Acharyavan Purushoveda says, “it is the man who has a Guru that can get knowledge or realization.”
 
 Mundaka Upanishad says, “to get Brahman, Knowledge realization, one should go with his Guru who has [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Need for a <em>Guru</em> &#8211; Sastraic authority:-<span> </span>“Acharya Devo Bhava” is mentioned in Taittiriya Upanishad. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Acharyavan Purushoveda says, “it is the man who has a <em>Guru</em> that can get knowledge or realization.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Mundaka Upanishad<sup> </sup>says, “to get Brahman, Knowledge realization, one should go with his Guru who has realized God.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Srimad Bhagavata says, “the <em>Sadhaka</em> must resort to a <em>Guru</em> devoted to God, who has realized God and is calm.”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>The Katha Upanishad says,”in this matter of realization unless some one else speaks it out, there is no way.” </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><em><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Guru</span></em><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"> Gita<sup> </sup>says, “Studies do not suffice. Without a <em>Guru</em>, there is no Realization.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">This Atman, that is, its realization is not got by study or repeated chanting Vedas nor by keenness of intellect or by much learning. It is he whom Realization desires that gets it. To him it reveals it’s from. Of course this realization, which is personified, comes as a matter of fact because there are methods through the grace or bodies of the <em>Guru</em>s. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Even Vyasa, who taught his son Suka all the Vedas, sent him to <em>Guru</em> Janaka for confirmation. King Janaka acted as his <em>Guru</em> and enabled him to perceive that what his <em>Guru</em> had taught and what the Vedas explained was the same as the actual realization, which Suka had in him. Until and unless such a seal is set on one’s realization, that realization is not complete. </span></p>
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		<title>8.7 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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 That is a correct description of Baba’s Marga. It has been called Guru Marga in Guru Gita. Guru Marga is a form of Bhakthi Marga in which faith in and devotion to the Guru is the only Sadhana for achieving everything including salvation, Mukti or Brahmaiktya, Satchidananda conquest of samsara, and also all [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>That is a correct description of Baba’s Marga.<span> </span>It has been called <em>Guru</em> Marga in <em>Guru</em> Gita. <em>Guru</em> Marga is a form of Bhakthi Marga in which faith in and devotion to the <em>Guru</em> is the only Sadhana for achieving everything including salvation, Mukti or Brahmaiktya, Satchidananda conquest of <em>samsara</em>, and also all yoga, siddhis and temporal welfare. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Here Baba showed the applicability of the <em>Guru</em> Gita to religious progress. The one who is acquainted with the ‘ins’ and ‘outs’ of the spiritual field, a forest is a vanjari. The fourth person, Baba who realized that a guide was needed, and mere talk with bookish knowledge was of no use at all to help one to realize God and himself. Above all, the question was not an intellectual one. It was a problem as to how a particular soul was to be raised to realization, and that as essentially a matter of moulding the entire soul of the student or <em>sishya</em>. What is wanted therefore is humility, receptivity, and a powerful desire to reach the goal with the aid of a <em>Guru</em>. Therefore, a readiness to adopt a <em>Guru</em> and surrender everything to the <em>Guru</em> is needed. Everything is Tan, Man, Dhan that is, body, mind and possession. As a result of the intense love he bore to his <em>Guru,</em> Baba sacrificed and surrendered at the feet of his <em>Guru</em>. The solution of the problem as to whether there is need for a <em>Guru</em> is already reached when the <em>sishya</em> get into the proper humility, receptivity, and longing attachment to the <em>Guru</em>, culminating in mutual love. Then realization is reached. Purely by <em>Guru</em>’s grace, Realization flashes upon the <em>sishya.</em> Baba said, “The <em>Guru</em>’s grace is our only sadhana. Jnana comes as experience or in the wake of <em>Guru</em>’s grace. He alone succeeds who feels the <em>Guru</em> is the one thing needed.” </span></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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As we roamed aimlessly through forest, we met a man who works in the forest. He asked us “where are you going in this heat into the forest?” We gave no direct reply. He warned us politely not to get lost into the thick woods and that too needlessly. He offered his food to us. [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">As we roamed aimlessly through forest, we met a man who works in the forest. He asked us “where are you going in this heat into the forest?” We gave no direct reply. He warned us politely not to get lost into the thick woods and that too needlessly. He offered his food to us. We disdained his advice and walked into the forest.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>But in that vast and dense wood we lost our way. To our surprise we met the same forester. He said that by relying on our own cleverness, we had got into a wrong way. He said that a guide is a must to show the way. By saying “Do not refuse offers of food. Such offers are auspicious signs of success in one’s endeavour.” he again invited us to take food with him. Again we declined the food and went away. I soon felt hungry and I went and accepted a bit of bread and ate it and drank some water.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>The forester then said, “What was your dispute?” and I told him all our talk. The others left him and did not care for him. But I reverently bowed to him. Then he took me to a well tied up my legs with a rope, and suspended me, head downwards, from a tree by the side of the well. My head was about three feet off the water, which I could not reach. And the forester left me there and went away. I do not know, where he has gone. He returned after 4 or 5 hours and asked me how I felt. I answered, “My time was passed in great bliss”. The forester might be pleased with me. He drew me near him, passed his palm over my head and body and spoke to me tender words dripping with love. He put me into his school where I entirely forgot my father and mother and all attachments and desires. I loved to gaze at him. If he were not there to see, I would not like to have eyes at all. I did not wish to go back. I forgot all other things but the forester, the <em>Guru</em>. My life was concentrated in my sight in him. That was the object of my meditation. In silence, I bowed. Meaning, Realisation flashed upon me, of itself without effort or study purely by his grace.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><span> </span><em>Guru</em>’s grace is our only sadhana. Jnana comes as experience or in its wake.</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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There are so many souls, which has been immersed deep into the forest of Samsara and lost all knowledge of even the cardinal directions and got confused. Salutation to the Guru is a must that shows the path to get out of this. The Guru alone can help one to enter the spiritual field. On [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">There are so many souls, which has been immersed deep into the forest of Samsara and lost all knowledge of even the cardinal directions and got confused. Salutation to the <em>Guru</em> is a must that shows the path to get out of this. The <em>Guru</em> alone can help one to enter the spiritual field. On one occasion this point was raised by Baba. Baba was referring to the fact that he himself was a <em>Guru</em> who could guide those who came to <em>Shirdi</em> or to his feet to make spiritual progress. About the necessity for a <em>Guru</em>, Baba mentions the discussion between himself and three other fellow disciples. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Baba himself described how he met his <em>Guru</em>. Once myself and three others were studying our pothi, parayana puran, and other works and discussed how we were to get realization.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>One said we should depend on ourselves and not on a <em>Guru</em>. For Gita says, Raise your self by the Self (uddharet-Atmana). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>The first sadhaka here is like the Devil quoting scripture. In quoting Gita, he wrests a verse out of its context and misapplies it. The Gita emphasizes the need for a <em>Guru</em> to get realization, and these are ignored and the wrested verse is treated as cancelling the other express reference to the need for a <em>Guru</em>. The Sadhaka ignores the all-important fact that the Gita upadesa is given to Arjuna only after he got disgusted with his life situation and he made Prapatti and Saranagati.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">The second and third sadhakas quote the need of qualifications or requisites for Brahmajnana as per Vivekachudamani. But this is mere reproduction by bookworms.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">How to get self-control and release from doubts? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">How to feel the animal nature and overcome them? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">How to overcome our desires? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">There lies the hurdle. Books do not solve. Surrender to a loving <em>Guru</em> and love towards that <em>Guru</em> alone can solve these problems. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Baba the fourth sadhaka was practical and noted that Surrender and Love to <em>Guru</em> were the only solutions.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Second one said, ‘the main thing is to make the mind self-controlled, free from thoughts and doubts. It is we who are in every thing everywhere.’</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in; line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Third one said, ‘the form that is in phenomena is ever changing. The formless is unchanging. So we must always be making Vichara that is distinguishing between Nitya, unchanging and Anithya changing.’</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Then Baba said, ‘I dislike bookish knowledge. Let us do our prescribed duty, and surrender our body, speech and life to a <em>Guru</em>, who is all pervading. Faith in him is the thing needed.’</span></p>
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		<title>8.4 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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Diksha is a special process for removing evil taints and initiating pupil with powers and siddhis. 
 
Kinds of Dikshas are:
 Chakshusi by mere glance
 Sparsa by touching the head.
 Vacha by words blessing.
 Manasi mentally blessing.
 Sastri by teaching sastras.
 Yoga is Guru entering into the pupil’s mind inwardly.
 Howtri Kriyavati performing homas [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Diksha is a special process for removing evil taints and initiating pupil with powers and siddhis. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Kinds of Dikshas are:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Chakshusi by mere glance</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>Sparsa by touching the head.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Vacha </em>by words blessing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Manasi</em> mentally blessing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Sastri </em>by teaching <em>sastras.</em></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Yoga </em>is <em>Guru</em> entering into the pupil’s mind inwardly.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Howtri Kriyavati </em>performing homas with fire.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span><em>Howtri Jnanavati </em>doing the homa mentally, to bless the pupil.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Need for a <em>Guru</em>.</span></span></strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">The question is whether <em>Guru</em> is needed or not? Even now people conduct heated arguments. Some arguing that there is need and others arguing that there is no need. These debates are usually fruitless and they excite and result in loss of peace. A good example is Heamdpant alias Anna Saheb Dabolkar’s case. On his first visit to <em>Shirdi</em>, he hotly contested for one hour or so that a <em>Guru</em> was an unnecessary fetter and quoted the Gita, in his support. Bala Saheb Bhate took the opposite view and maintained that destiny was supreme and that all had a Guru. The discussion made Anna Dabolkar less fit to approach the great <em>Guru</em> <em>Sai Baba</em> by reason of restlessness. But Baba by graciously revealed his Antarjnana. All that passed during the discussion made Anna Dabolkar feel humble and contrite. He felt that Baba was a wondrous Supreme Power before whom he and his weak powers should bend and given up his “reason” and supposed independence. And thus he became the <em>sishya</em> of Baba. By Baba’s grace he found that destiny had fixed him up. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">The Sastras, for example, Srimad Bhagavata, Bhagavata Gita, <em>Guru</em> Gita, Katham Mundadam Taittiriya, Maha Narayanopanishad say clearly that without a <em>Guru</em> Brahmanjnana and Moksha cannot be attained. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><span> </span>The need is questioned as a rule by persons not yet fit to be <em>sishya</em>s that is those without humility, reverence, patience, receptivity and other virtues, or the proper attitude towards great saints. They must be advised to have <em>Satsang</em>. That is they must move with <em>bhaktas</em> and fit themselves for further progress. When they are fairly fit, they will get their <em>Guru</em>. It is not the truth that <em>sishyas</em> always go out to find the <em>Guru</em>. The reverse is often true. There are many noble souls waiting to be approached by persons who want to become <em>sishyas</em> and have the proper attitude and training. </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">There are great souls who have attained perfect peace and who are working to benefit and bless the world like the spring season. Though they have themselves crossed the terrible ocean of samsara, they are ferrying others across without any reward or recompense or motive. <em>Sai Baba</em> himself sent for N.G. Chandorkar expressly and drew hundreds or thousands to him inwardly and unnoticed by them. Baba says, ‘No one comes to me except by my drawing. I draw people to me under various pretexts such as the worldly objects they want. When a boy ties a bird’s foot with one end of a string and pulls the other end, can the bird refuse to come?’ This drawing is mostly due to <em>rinanubandha</em>. That is prenatal ties and obligations. This is termed by Baba Saheb Bhate, the irresistible pull of destiny. The need for a <em>Guru</em> is patent especially in worldly affairs. People do not expect the children to learn the three ‘R’s, drawing, etc., without a teacher. If this is so in the material world, how much more essential is the need in the subtle spiritual field? Generally one’s spiritual progress and the stages one has to go through, and the way of mastering problems that arise there are often dealt with in books on religion. These books will not suffice to enable one to tackle this subject effectively. Religious literature is a vast forest, through which one cannot pick one’s way. </span></p>
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		<title>8.3 &#8211; Guru Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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The Kula Moolavatara Kalpa Sutra Teeka Gata Kulagama mentions six classes of Gurus in regular gradation. They are;
Preraka One who just starts the pupil Suchaka One who indicates and carries further Vachaka One who regularly teaches and coaches Darscaka One who points out the way and goal to the pupil. Sikshaka One who regularly teaches [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">The Kula Moolavatara Kalpa Sutra Teeka Gata Kulagama mentions six classes of Gurus in regular gradation. They are;<br />
Preraka One who just starts the pupil Suchaka One who indicates and carries further Vachaka One who regularly teaches and coaches Darscaka One who points out the way and goal to the pupil. Sikshaka One who regularly teaches and guides the pupil fully. These five are preparations to go to the 6th. Bodhaka one who is also called the Karana Guru, who thoroughly illumines the pupil and prepares him for Brahma Jnana and Moksha.</span></p>
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There are Gurus who are seen and others unseen; and there are Gurus who merely impart teachings and do not care for results. That is, they do not undertake any responsibility for the disciples.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">There are others who give definite undertakings and carry out the same at all costs and if necessary life after life proceeding to seek the disciple in subsequent lives for the purpose. The best instance of such a Guru is Sri Sai Baba who undertook liability for H.S.Dixit, N.G.Chandorkar, Bandara Master and M.B. Rege and others.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Another classification is based on the powers and methods of the Guru. The Guru who teaches something secular or religious is merely called Guru. He who teaches about God or Sath is called SathGuru. He who uses all his siddhis and superior powers to carry the disciple right up to the goal is called Samartha SathGuru. Ramdas, Guru of Shivaji, and Sai Baba belong to the class of Samartha SathGurus. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">ParamaGuru is a Samartha SathGuru who looks after the entire welfare secular and spiritual of his disciple.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Diksha Guru who formally initiates the pupil and invests him with mantra, power.<br />
Siksha Gurus, that is the usual Guru who teaches or trains a pupil.<br />
Male Gurus usually prescribed in all Sastras for pupils to attain Moksha.<br />
Female Gurus specially referred to in Tantra works to give mantra and training to pupils who aim at siddhis. The Sastras generally dissuade persons anxious to attain Moksha resort to female Gurus. In the case of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, the Bhairavi Lady Guru trained him in tantras. After that came the Nanga Avadhuta Guru who initiated him into concentration on Nirguna Brahman. Similarly in the case of Sri. P.R. Avaste, a lady Guru initiated him into Mantra that is Siva Panchakshari permutations and combinations Japa, which would result in seeing various gods and produce various powers. Later he came to Baba.<br />
Kula Gurus – hereditary<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Other Gurus</span></p>
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Deciples prefer the Kula Guru to begin with. When there is no benefit, then go to a competent Guru. Baba was not the Kula Guru of Nana Chandorkar, but his rinanubanda Guru and in a sense the Guru of his Destiny.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><br />
Baba was a siksha Guru to N.G.Chandorkar and Balakram Manker.<br />
Gurus for all round training and teaching for example, Venkusa.</span></p>
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Gurus for some push or help (for example Sai Baba to Narayan Asram)</span></p>
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Gurus for some mantra, tantra, special vidya, yogabhyasa, and asana.</span></p>
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Gurus for Vydeeki profession and Vedic study.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;"><br />
Gurus for secular purposes only.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">Gurus for inward working Dakshinamurthi method and Baba’s.</span></p>
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Gurus for Oral teaching mainly.</span></p>
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Gurus for Both.</span></p>
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